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    Season 19 Part 1-2 | Grow Lancer Renewal & SeasonPass Sale

    We are pleased to announce launch of Season 19 Part 1-2 | Grow Lancer Renewal open test version available to our active subscribers of Premium Plus package (future Suite Plus)

    Season 19 Part 1-2 | Grow Lancer Renewal | IGCN

    New update changes

    The update brings number of new features and extends range of existing once.

    Update content

    • Grow Lancer Renewal (reworked skill trees, new skills, combat power)
    • New Mastery Items (9th): Apocalypse Weapons and Shields
    • New Mastery Items (10th): Lightning (normal and ancient)
    • New Map & Monsters: Tormenta Island
    • New Excellent option for shields
    • New Mastery Item Mixes
    • New Muuns
    • Increased maximum mastery level to 1200 (1600 total)

    Test Versions

    The test version will be available for any subscriber of Premium Plus (future Suite Plus) regardless of purchased season pass (upgrade) level, however will be limited in time (that can be extended as required) and shut down automatically upon expiration date of test period. The open availability of test versions allows to get familiar with new content and perform required test.

    SeasonPass Sale

    We open ability to get Season 19 Pass at reduced price until end of Test period. To find out the deal visit License Manager and click Manage SeasonPass.

    Test period ends on 15.11.2023 at 11:59:59 PM GMT+1.

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    4 hours ago, StefanoAAguiar said:

    Season 19 Part 1-2 | Grow Lancer Renewal | 55€
    Season 19 Part 1-3 | Grow Lancer Renewal | 55€ will we have to pay again for 1-3?

    Good question, but i think its for season update.

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    It is a theft to pay for each update in less than 3 months and already paid for season 18 ep2 Now it won't even take 5 months to pay again, how annoying is all this, seriously?

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    Nobody forces you to update. You are free to use the version you have now and update whenever you feel conformable to do so. I also would recommend to review your attitude and avoid calling someone a thief, as how you would call somebody wanting to use somebody's else work for free or close to free and gain profit on it?

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    Raising a price when you already have an old contract with clients with monthly payment was fine but now adding a price for each version change, the vast majority of servers do not have more than 1000 users who can pay for each thing they add.

    The most annoying thing is the response they give, if you don't want to, don't feel comfortable, don't update when the vast majority here uses the igcn files for having the latest version of mu

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    2 hours ago, Wizzy said:

    Nobody forces you to update. You are free to use the version you have now and update whenever you feel conformable to do so. I also would recommend to review your attitude and avoid calling someone a thief, as how you would call somebody wanting to use somebody's else work for free or close to free and gain profit on it?

    Will you charge for every update or for every season?

     

    Besides monthly payment?

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    That is clearly explained in above article, not sure why to repeat it over again. Usually we do not plan to do every single "part" separately and charge for it, however we noticed that S19 Part 1-3 and later will be very content rich and therefore not wanting to leave you waiting for long time for S19, we made S19 P1-2 for just €55 if you upgrade during test period. Topic explaining the licensing changes and upgrade charges last since 27th June 2023, there is no more room for being suprised.

    11 hours ago, Seeker said:

    Will you charge for every update or for every season?

    Per upgrade, whatever it gonna be.

    11 hours ago, elangelave said:

    Raising a price when you already have an old contract with clients with monthly payment was fine but now adding a price for each version change, the vast majority of servers do not have more than 1000 users who can pay for each thing they add.

    Old product and it's rules were discusintonued and new one came in place. By upgrading to any of season pass you enter new agreement. Raising prices of renewals would make you spend at least €200 more a year than paying per upgrade, which are more friendly to end user and leave the freedom of choice.

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    Funny how you all make a profit on a game that you don't own and try to call people's names. 
    MuO will never be yours and all of the administrators are thieves of Webzen, don't try to change that just because you downloaded some files. 


    You are not paying for a game because it's not for sale, you are paying for DEV time and access to their work as well as support. Some developers are cheaper some are more expensive but in the end, they are the ones that dictate the cost. 
    If you do not understand a basic business case like this then you should never do business and not even start building your server to begin with as it will not serve you any good. 
    The attitude of private muo players sickens me, but what is even more disgusting is the admins cheapening out and being even more idiotic. Go to a grocery store tomorrow and tell the store manager that the fruits are too expensive and they should not charge for the fruits because it's cheaper elsewhere and then tell me his reaction. 
    I know it's off-topic but it just triggers me.
     

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    18 hours ago, zander1989 said:

    Go to a grocery store tomorrow and tell the store manager that the fruits are too expensive and they should not charge for the fruits because it's cheaper elsewhere and then tell me his reaction. 
    I know it's off-topic but it just triggers me.
     

    You know what will happen? It is called competitive market. Store manger will check and if the price is lower elsewhere he/she will sell you the product for the cheapest competitive price, to keep you as a customer. What we have here is abuse of monopoly - don't like it, don't buy it - this is a very poor practice because there is no loyalty. Ask yourself this, if there is another developer tomorrow, that offers you 20% cheaper exact the same product with better customer service- where would you go? Answer is obvious. What triggers me is unfairness and people who are long lasting customers feel betrayed. 

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    1 hour ago, Christmas said:

    You know what will happen? It is called competitive market. Store manger will check and if the price is lower elsewhere he/she will sell you the product for the cheapest competitive price, to keep you as a customer.

    You logic is completely wrong and such practices are far away from popular since long time already - this way your grocery shop would go bankrupt sooner than later. You expect good product to use it for gaining profit but want it at minimum cost from your end. If you don't like our products then you have a choice, there is competition around, even 2 or 3, knowing that we still decided to raise the prices. We are not chip, never was. I will tell you what is bad practice - telling someone how to run his business.

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    1 hour ago, Christmas said:

    You know what will happen? It is called competitive market. Store manger will check and if the price is lower elsewhere he/she will sell you the product for the cheapest competitive price, to keep you as a customer. What we have here is abuse of monopoly - don't like it, don't buy it - this is a very poor practice because there is no loyalty. Ask yourself this, if there is another developer tomorrow, that offers you 20% cheaper exact the same product with better customer service- where would you go? Answer is obvious. What triggers me is unfairness and people who are long lasting customers feel betrayed. 

    I don't want to start a big debate as you clearly have a different approach to business, perhaps it varies from country to country. Where I'm from your logic does not work for over a decade now. It's all about demand, quality and reliability now. If there were a different dev selling for 30% cheaper I wouldn't trust it because I don't know if he's going to be reliable.

    Business is not about who offers better or who is cheaper. Business is about delivering something people want. If you want an iPhone, you will pay 5 times more for it than for an Android even tho they are technically the same phones. But no one makes another iPhone and they have their unique features, and there are lots of Androids. Iphone has no competition so they have their prices high.


    Let's say for a second that there are 2 Devs like IGCNs then perhaps your logic would apply and they would fight for the customers by lowering the price or offering something more. But there isn't.
    And if there isn't, we have to either accept their conditions or stop doing what we are doing. I get it, I don't want to spend extra money every month or so but It's not unfair it's just business. It's perhaps better for them to get higher payment from 500 users and lose 10% of the customers by doing it, you will never know, but that is their business. 

    But thats just my opinion 🙄


     

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    You are making a big deal out of a molehill.
    You have been warned in advance if the new practice does not please you or anyone else, look for competitors, however I am already clear that in the competition you will not have what we have here.

    • Periodic updates
    • Fast support and responses
    • Seasonal updates with 100% working features
    • Among other things.

    I have my opinion, but it will never be public! However, I don't disagree with the method.
    This way, anyone who wants something new or new resources for their respective projects will pay nothing more than fair.

    In the end.

    Do you think that working by doing:

    • reverse engineering
    • Tests
    • Compilations
    • More tests
    • Versions
    • Fixes
    • New tests

    Without leaving any other service inactive, it is not for everyone.

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    22 minutes ago, zander1989 said:

    Let's say for a second that there are 2 Devs like IGCNs then perhaps your logic would apply and they would fight for the customers by lowering the price or offering something more.

    Lowering price is not what we practice, rather would do drastic improvements jump to leave them behind.

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    57 minutes ago, Wizzy said:

    You logic is completely wrong and such practices are far away from popular since long time already - this way your grocery shop would go bankrupt sooner than later. You expect good product to use it for gaining profit but want it at minimum cost from your end. If you don't like our products then you have a choice, there is competition around, even 2 or 3, knowing that we still decided to raise the prices. We are not chip, never was. I will tell you what is bad practice - telling someone how to run his business.

    Well, it depends on what we are dealing with here, big produce store will always push out a smaller one and dictate the price, but we are talking about a digital product. Since when good, fair and transparent customer service has become a bad practice?

    When have I said I want anything cheaper? 

    All I am saying is that there would have been more subtle options and approaches how to increase the prices for your customers without going through the complaints you so don't like, but what do I know my logic is wrong as you said. As for me and the prices I have my dislikes but it is what it is. 

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    Holy ****.
    it was just yes or no the answer!
    look what turned out.....
    for God's sake.
    Work is work, no one has to put a price on my work and I much less put a price on the work of others.
    I just want to know if you will have to pay for season 19 part 1-3 or not.
    just that, nothing more than that
    (    ) Yes, you will have to pay
    (    ) You won't have to pay because you already paid for season 19 1-1

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